How And Why To Set Up A Roth IRA Conversion Ladder

How And Why To Set Up A Roth IRA Conversion Ladder
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One problem with retiring early is that you can’t access your tax-sheltered retirement accounts until 59 1/2 without taxes and penalties. Luckily the Roth IRA conversion ladder can help solve this problem.

A Roth IRA conversion ladder entails moving your money from a tax-deferred account, such as a 401(k) or traditional IRA, into a Roth IRA. The benefit of doing this is that you can withdraw the converted funds from your Roth IRA after only five years.

Hello, early retirement!

The Basics of Roth IRAs

Before we go any further, let’s take a quick look at Roth IRAs and how they are uniquely suited to early retirement. Roth IRAs are similar to tax-deferred retirement options with a few key differences:

  • Contributions are not tax-deductible
  • Contributions can be withdrawn anytime penalty and tax-free
  • Both investment earnings and contributions can be withdrawn tax and penalty-free as long as you are at least 59 ½ and your Roth IRA is at least five years old

There are other loopholes for taking money out of a Roth IRA, such as using them to pay for a first-time home purchase or qualifying educational expenses. However, for the purpose of early retirement, the three points above are key.

Here’s an article that discusses the other loopholes if you are curious.

Now let’s look at the other piece of the puzzle–the Roth IRAs conversion.

The Roth IRA And Early Retirement

As retirement plans go, Roth’s are pretty unconventional. While you don’t get the benefit of tax-deductible contributions, you do get tax-free growth.

At age 59 ½, you can begin making withdrawals of both contributions and investment income fully tax-free. Got that? Tax-free income in retirement–not tax-deferred.

Not surprisingly, this has led to a massive wave of Roth IRA conversions. That’s where investors move money from regular retirement accounts–401(k), 403(b), and traditional IRA plans–into Roth IRAs.

This is referred to as a Roth IRA conversion.

Unlike simple rollovers of funds from one retirement plan to another, Roth IRA conversions generally have tax consequences. You will have to pay ordinary income tax–but not an early withdrawal penalty–on any retirement savings transferred into a Roth IRA in the year of conversion.

For example, if you move $40,000 from an old 401(k) plan into a Roth IRA, and you’re in the 12% tax bracket, you’ll have to pay $4,800 in federal income tax on the amount converted–$40,000 X 12%. (Non-tax deductible contributions to the 401(k) plan would not be taxable, but that’s a complicated topic we don’t have time to discuss here.)

On the surface, that may seem scary. But if you’re looking to create a stream of tax-free income in retirement, that benefit usually outweighs the current year tax liability.

Because of the tax liability, it’s most common for people to do a Roth IRA conversion over several years. That will minimize both your tax bracket and your taxes in the years of conversion.

Creating A Roth IRA Conversion “Ladder”

Since withdrawals from a Roth IRA can be taken tax-free, this creates a potential source of tax-free income even in early retirement.

There’s a loophole with Roth IRAs that pertains only to Roth IRAs and no other retirement plans. It’s a loophole that’s made to order for early retirement.

Since Roth IRA contributions are not tax-deductible, they can be withdrawn tax-free at any time. That means even before you turn 59 ½ and are in the plan for at least five years.

This has to do with IRS Ordering Rules, which allows the first withdrawals taken from your Roth IRA to be regular contributions. Since your contributions were already taxed, you can withdraw them without paying ordinary income tax or an early withdrawal penalty.

Roth IRA conversions are different. The IRS imposes a five-year waiting period after each conversion. If you withdraw the converted balance before five years you will be hit with a 10% early withdrawal penalty. (You won’t have to pay ordinary income tax because you already paid it when you converted the funds to the Roth.)

Here’s more info from Investopedia on the five-year waiting period.

Related: Why You Should Fund Your Roth Even If You Don’t Need It

Why Conversions And Not Annual Contributions?

Wondering why it’s necessary to do a conversion, and not simply make annual Roth IRA contributions? It has to do with dollar amounts.

In 2019, Roth IRA contributions are limited to just $6,000 per year, or $7,000 if you’re 50 or older. While the cap gets adjusted for inflation periodically, it’s still very low.

It would take a very long time to accumulate a large Roth IRA account with such small contributions. If you plan to use your Roth IRA for early retirement, you may not have enough money saved in your Roth to support you until you can access your 401(k).

It’s more likely you have that kind of money saved in other retirement plans. This is particularly true of employer-sponsored plans, like 401(k)s. You will have both higher contribution amounts and a potential employer match.

Taking advantage of conversions allows you to contribute your annual contributions to the Roth and move money over from your 401(k) allowing for a much larger balance in the Roth.

Creating Your Own Roth IRA Conversion Ladder for Early Retirement

If you start doing Roth IRA conversions for at least five years before your planned early retirement, you’ll be able to begin withdrawing those contribution balances tax-free and penalty-free by the time you early retire.

As an example, let’s say you plan to retire at 50. You decide that you need at least $40,000 in tax-free income per year. At 45, you begin making annual Roth IRA conversions of $40,000. In each year you make the conversion, you pay the applicable tax on the amount converted.

By the time you turn 50–and your initial conversion is five years old–you’ll be able to withdraw the $40,000 conversion balance you made at age 45. If you do this for 10 years, beginning at age 45, you’ll have a steady tax-free, penalty-free income of $40,000 per year through age 59.

At age 59 ½, you can begin tapping any and all other retirement plans you have available, penalty-free, and subject only to ordinary income tax. And, of course, any amounts you have remaining in your Roth IRA account can continue to be withdrawn on a tax-free basis.

We’re throwing out a lot of numbers, so let’s see how this works in the table below.

YearAge At The Time Of The ActionRoth IRA Conversion AmountRoth IRA Withdrawal AmountSource Of Funds Withdrawn
201845$40,000N/AN/A
20194640,000N/AN/A
20204740,000N/AN/A
20214840,000N/AN/A
20224940,000N/AN/A
20235040,000$40,0002018 Conversion
20245140,00040,0002019 Conversion
20255240,00040,0002020Conversion
20265340,00040,0002021 Conversion
20275440,00040,0002022 Conversion
20285540,00040,0002023 Conversion
20295640,00040,0002024 Conversion
20305740,00040,0002025 Conversion
20315840,00040,0002026 Conversion
20325940,00040,0002027 Conversion
Totals15 Years$400,000 Converted$400,000 Withdrawn

An Important Caveat To The Roth IRA Conversion Ladder

As you can see from the table above, a Roth IRA conversion ladder can do an outstanding job of providing you with tax-free, penalty-free retirement withdrawals well before age 59 ½.

But there’s a Part B to this strategy that’s equally important. If you’re going to use a Roth IRA conversion ladder to fund your early retirement years, you have to make sure there’ll be plenty of retirement assets left by the time you reach 59 ½.

In the example above, the total amount of retirement capital used for the Roth IRA conversion ladder is $400,000. That’s a lot of capital to burn through before you even reach 60.

In order for the strategy to work, you’ll have to have enough other retirement savings to provide you with an income for the rest of your life. Exactly how much that will be will depend upon how much income you’ll need during the traditional retirement years.

Complicating this issue is the fact that you won’t be eligible for Social Security until age 62 at the earliest. And if you begin taking benefits then, it will be at a greatly reduced level. Full retirement age for Social Security purposes–the age at which you’re entitled to your full retirement benefit–doesn’t begin until age 67 for most people today.

That means you may continue to be entirely dependent on your retirement savings between the time you reach 59 ½ and you begin collecting Social Security benefits. That would take a very large retirement portfolio.

Related: When To Claim Social Security

Lowering The Amount Of Retirement Savings You’ll Devote To The Conversion Ladder

Two alternatives to consider include:

  1. Utilize SEPP withdrawals to avoid penalties.
  2. Expect less income from the Roth IRA conversion ladder, and rely on additional sources of income in early retirement.

The Roth IRA conversion ladder is an excellent strategy to provide income during the early retirement years. But it only makes sense if you have the kind of retirement savings that will also provide a generous income when traditional retirement arrives.

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8 thoughts on “How And Why To Set Up A Roth IRA Conversion Ladder”

  1. My 401k is set up as a Roth 401K with a 4% match which I’ve been maxing out for years. This was before I thought about FI and was simply thinking I wanted my $ to be taken out tax free at 59.5. Now I’m wondering if I shouldn’t be doing the traditional 401K so I’m not hit with the taxes now and then do the conversion ladder later. I’ll be FI/RE in about 3-4 years but actually don’t plan on touching the funds for a long time since my wife will continue to work and make good $ for probably 10-15 years. My education on taxes is the area I’m lacking the most! Suggestions?

  2. Good refresher on Roth IRA conversion. I had previously read this in Madfientist and if I remember correctly in retire by 40. Also, I believe there is a minor error in the table, the value of ‘Roth IRA conversion amount’ should be zero from years 55 to 59 otherwise the amount will total to $600,000 converted

  3. Isn’t the conversion amount considered income? Using your example, it would be hard to remain in the 12% bracket while doing conversions of this size. Thus, an ideal time to do any Roth IRA conversion would be when you’re temporarily unemployed or working p/t. That’s what my situation is: I began a semi-retirement at age 58 earlier this spring but am still working p/t, which I plan to keep doing for several years at least. The p/t work should cover about 90% of my annual expenses. I hope to be able to top off my income near year’s end at the top of the 12% bracket with some Roth IRA conversions, but this won’t likely be a meaningful amount of money unless I bump myself into the 22% bracket.

  4. Hey guys, love the podcasts. One assumption people using this strategy should be aware of is thr ROTH rules could change or ROTH could cease to exist. Congress is always looking for more money. If that happened the tax consequences would be disastrous because all money is in tax deferred accounts. The Wealthy Accountant had mentioned his concern regarding how long Roths may be around also. Thanks for all the great podcasts!

  5. Can I do backdoor Roth if I have an existing IRA? I have my 401k in my ex-employers plan but want to move it to Vanguard. I am considering not doing so as because I think due to the “Aggregation Rule” I will be taxed on the entire IRA if I move it and still want to do backdoor roth. Any guidance will help. Thanks!!!

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