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Social Security Deep Dive | Denis Shapiro
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Ep. 474 · · 1h 4m 11s

Social Security Deep Dive | Denis Shapiro

In this episode: social security, disability, calculating social security, claiming social security, and due diligence.

Hosted by Brad Barrett
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Dennis Shapiro worked at the Social Security Administration for 12 years, and his core message contradicts what most early retirees assume: you're probably working longer than necessary by ignoring your future benefits. Most people in the FI community either write off Social Security entirely or treat it as "bonus money" that might not exist when they retire. Shapiro dismantles both misconceptions and explains why understanding your benefits now—especially if you're self-employed or planning to stop traditional work early—directly impacts how much you actually need to save.

Brad Barrett sits down with Shapiro to cover the mechanics of benefit calculations, the 35-year earnings window, claiming strategies, and even disability provisions most people never consider. The conversation cuts through the confusion around what you've actually earned versus what you'll receive, and why checking your ssa.gov account isn't optional busywork.

Key Takeaways:

  • Social Security is likely to remain intact in the coming decades
  • Benefits are based on your 35 highest earning years
  • Self-employed individuals must ensure their earnings are reported correctly
  • Impact of claiming benefits early versus waiting until full retirement age
  • Annual earnings test and potential penalties for working while claiming benefits
  • You can receive both salary and disability benefits under certain conditions

Timestamps & Topics Covered:

  • Introduction to Social Security
  • Common Misconceptions
  • Funding Social Security
  • Calculating Benefits
  • Social Security's role in financial independence
  • Claiming Benefits Strategies
  • Disability Benefits Overview

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Action Items:

  • Sign up for an account at ssa.gov to check your earnings statements and understand your projected benefits
  • Log into your ssa.gov account annually to review your earnings and projected benefits

Key Quotes:

  • "Social Security is likely to remain intact in the coming decades."
  • "Social Security should never be your sole financial safety net; it's part of a broader strategy."
  • "You can receive both your salary and disability benefits simultaneously under certain conditions."

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  • OASDI: Old Age Survivor Disability Insurance, a payroll tax that funds Social Security benefits
  • FICA: Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax used to fund Social Security and Medicare
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Amburger 6 months ago

I just listened to this episode and found it extremely informative. This topic is relevant to me because I'm trying to understand my parents' financial situation with social security benefits

I related to Brad when he said seeing his income history was like walking down memory lane. I recently organzed a decade's worth of my tax documents, and memories came rushing back. I had "FU" money (as JL Collins says) and quit my miserable job, which led a bumpy 2-year period of little income, but lots of experimentation. Then I worked a corporate job for 7+ and my net worth really took off! It was a great exercise to reframe my history. It also helped me verify the accuracy of my SSA records.

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